Update From The Polycule 2022

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Josh 0:48
All right! So you know, I feel kinda, kind of sad, because we had this whole bit about operator error that we lost due to operator error.

Amanda 1:00
Ba-duh-bump.

Cassie 1:04
I don't do this. So an operator error...

Josh 1:05
It was clearly Cassie's fault.

Cassie 1:07
It was not my fault. I did not touch any of the equipment. I know that I am not, uh, I am not the tech person. And I'm I am super proud of that.

Josh 1:19
I don't know if I'm the person today.

Amanda 1:21
Yeah, I don't think so. The tech person just had operator error. That never happens.

Josh 1:28
Happens for everybody else quite frequently.

Cassie 1:32
But here's the thing, like that's your line is "this operator error". And I feel like me and Amanda just kind of like wait for whenever there's like the ability to call you on operator error.

Amanda 1:45
Well now what I said, isn't even her. I said, Oh, it must be operator error. And it didn't get recorded because of-

Josh 1:55
More operator error.

Amanda 1:56
Operator error!

Josh 1:59
Do you guys just like write down on a list? Like the times I have tech operator errors, just just like write them down?

Cassie 2:03
No, because we're filled with so much joy that we have to say something right in that moment. We can't even wait on it.

Josh 2:10
Even if it's on a podcast.

Cassie 2:11
Yes, it has to be said so that way. Yeah. It brings a balance back into the the realm of men.

Amanda 2:19
And then we just look at each other and we say...

Josh 2:24
So hello, everybody. We had wanted to bring Amanda on the podcast because it has been quite a while we were just talking I think in the the operator error lost portion of this but I think we were saying like it's been what like over a year maybe.

Cassie 2:40
About a year. Yeah. At least.

Josh 2:42
About a year. And not only has it been a year, but Amanda, this is your first time on video camera.

Amanda 2:49
Yes.

Josh 2:51
How's it going for you?

Amanda 2:51
It's weird. But also, you know, we have this background here. I feel like we-

Cassie 2:57
Can put ourselves on a beach.

Amanda 2:58
Yeah, I would love to go to the beach. Can we put a beach bag there? I feel like we're really missing out on what could be done here. Oh!

Cassie 3:11
Oh.

Amanda 3:12
A beach. And there's a door next to it.

Cassie 3:16
Well, that's just driftwood.

Josh 3:18
Is that better for you?

Amanda 3:21
I love it.

Josh 3:22
You know, that was entirely unplanned.

Cassie 3:26
That's really cool.

Amanda 3:27
It looks great.

Cassie 3:28
Now I feel like we're missing out. We don't have like mimosas or anything.

Amanda 3:31
A little drink with the little umbrellas out of it... on my magic table.

Josh 3:36
But yeah, you haven't, because we just started recording these episodes on video. So you were on I think for like the update from the polycule episode.

Amanda 3:42
Mm hmm.

Josh 3:43
And then this is your first time on camera. So now you don't get to do anything weird.

Amanda 3:48
I know. It's yeah, it's upsetting.

Cassie 3:52
Well, that is one thing I do actually miss from podcasting is now when we're on video, I can't be like... cuz like sometimes, or like fist bump, you know, like, there's some times where like, we'll start talking, especially in the host chat. And I'll be like, oh, like, I'm about to drop, like an F bomb or this, that or the other and I'm like, Oh, is this, is this, hmm? Did I want that on the podcast? I don't care. But like we don't get to do like the little like, like, you know, nudging each other.

Amanda 4:24
It's, well you guys have this like sign language that you do. Like,

Josh 4:29
Don't tell people, now we do it below the camera line.

Cassie 4:34
Yeah, we try to do it down here.

Unknown Speaker 4:36
They have like this whole other language where like I'm looking and I'm watching them. And I'm like, Aha, I know that. I know that hand movement, but I don't know that one.

Josh 4:44
Well, it's because we're not looking at each other most times we're pockets and when we did the setups where we were face to face, we didn't really have to do that. But the problem is like when when you're looking at the screen, it's really hard to pick up on the body language of like who's about to start talking, who's done, so we kind of like, I mean, we're I'm saying we have a lot of sign language. Mainly it's a lot of pointing or Cassie gesturing at me to slow down.

Cassie 5:05
Yeah, yeah, I roll the dial down on Josh's leg a lot. So like, you know, you guys can see my my leg here. So like, I have a little movement. That's this. This is like, you need to slow down. You're talking too fast. Yeah, we have we have that we have sign language that we use. And we've talked about it before. So Amanda's not really throwing us under the bus with this. We talked about it in the episode that we did around what we did at camp, we were talking about, you know, we have some gestures and some sign language that we use when we're playing with people. And it does translate over to the podcasting a little bit. There's some some overlap, but a lot of it is very different.

Josh 5:48
It's not that kind of podcast. I mean, it is that kind of podcast, but it's not that kind of podcast.

Cassie 5:56
I don't know. So sometimes it translates over, but there's many times that it doesn't. But I do think that we have a lot of really good nonverbal communication between the two of us. Just in general, is we have some good like, you know, body language and things like that, that we can pick up from each other.

Josh 6:17
But yeah, we thought we would just come on. I don't really have an agenda. It's more just like family updates, bullshitting.

Cassie 6:24
Being on the beach evidently.

Josh 6:25
Being on the beach. God, I could use the beach right now.

Amanda 6:29
I wish we would have planned this I would have had like, like nice, like girly drinks for everybody.

Cassie 6:36
I would have done girly drinks. And I would have wore more of like a beach outfit.

Amanda 6:40
Like a bikini?

Cassie 6:41
No.

Amanda 6:42
Cuz it's like February.

Cassie 6:45
I would not have worn a bikini I would have worn more like a sun dress. We're indoors. I mean, I could have gotten away with a sun dress. So I feel I feel out of place.

Josh 6:57
You would have been cold in that sun dress. But I would have watched you pull it off.

Cassie 7:02
I would have I would have done really well.

Amanda 7:04
You may have been cold but you would have looked really warm.

Cassie 7:11
So yeah, we didn't really have an agenda or anything like that. We just kind of decided that we bring Amanda on because we were talking about it like two episodes ago. And we were like we have not had you on in a long time. We haven't talked about the family or the kiddos. I mean, we've talked a little bit in the host chat here or there.

Josh 7:26
So Amanda, this is your episode go.

Cassie 7:28
Yeah. Now you're on the spot. Where's your agenda?

Amanda 7:30
I got a tattoo.

Josh 7:32
There we go.

Amanda 7:33
Boom. I was ready. Just in case.

Cassie 7:40
That's super recent. You're like bandaged up, right now.

Amanda 7:42
Yes I am. It's very painful. I'm hurting.

Cassie 7:46
Tell people about your tattoo. It's really cool.

Amanda 7:48
Okay. So I got um, I got a huge cover up tattoo from like, mid thigh to like right below I guess what, ribcage? Yeah, that's right below the ribcage.

Josh 7:58
Boob level.

Amanda 7:59
Yeah, almost. Almost.

Josh 8:02
Ribcage is a pretty, pretty large area.

Amanda 8:04
Yeah, yeah.

Cassie 8:06
It's lower ribcage. Boobs are a bit higher.

Amanda 8:09
I was gonna say it depends on Yeah. Um, but I got a cover up for a cat that I had. So okay. This has been coming for, like 7, 8, 9 years. And I finally got it. I had like, I dated somebody when I was like, really young. And I was like, Yeah, I'm going to get a tattoo. And you should never, you should never do that. You should never do that. So then I had it covered up by a cat a couple years later, that did not look great. And I've been waiting to get a beautiful marvelous cat and I got it. And it's huge, because it was a big tattoo to start with. And it's got sunflowers, because sunflowers are like, near and dear to me now, because of our baby. When we did our maternity shoot, we painted two separate paintings, me and Cassie. And it says you are our sunshine and the our is on both paintings. So like Cassie painted one. And then I painted one. And then we put them together and it made the whole painting and it had a bunch of sunflowers on it. And ever since then anytime I think about sunflowers, I think about little lion. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna do it.

Josh 9:31
It's hanging up in her play room, right?

Josh 9:33
It is and it will always be there. So yeah, I'm super stoked about that. Um, it's been a rough couple of days afterwards, though. I feel like I've got... I it looked it up. Tattoo flu is a thing. And I got it.

Josh 9:46
And you were sitting for how long?

Amanda 9:48
Five and a half hours.

Josh 9:49
It was pretty long. Because we were climbing while you're doing that and you were like the whole time we were climbing, and the whole time after. So it was pretty long.

Cassie 9:56
It's a big tattoo and it's it's it was a lot of black.

Amanda 10:00
So much black.

Cassie 10:01
So it's because of the Cat. The cat is like this big people like it's like a foot.

Amanda 10:10
And apparently when I bend now it looks like my cat is gonna pounce I was I was sitting down, and I leaned over, and the cat like kind of goes like, like leans in and is like I'm gonna get you. So that's cute. I was not expecting I wasn't even thinking about that. But I love that that's what happens.

Cassie 10:28
And I told Amanda like I look at her tattoo and it's got the beautiful sunflowers and all I can think to myself is you know, that cat is going to fuck them flowers up. Like, you know that cat is just waiting for you not to pay attention. So he can like call the flowers and destroy them.

Amanda 10:42
We were laying in bed at like 11:45 and little lion had just gone to sleep and Cassie's sitting there. And she's like, hm. And I'm like what she's like, so I was thinking about that cat on you. And I was like what? Like it's gonna fuck them flowers up. I'm like, where did this even come from at 1145 at night, we both have our eyes closed, like about to go to bed and she's sitting there thinking about how this cat, how destructive cats are.

Cassie 11:07
I was like, You got a cat with flowers. Like it looks gorgeous. But that might be one of the most fantasy tattoos I've ever seen. I've seen people with ones that are like Star Wars or Disney princesses and a cat peacefully sitting next to sunflowers is probably the biggest fantasy tattoo I've ever seen. Yeah, you know that cats gonna mess some flowers up. So that happened. And...

Josh 11:34
And the other thing we were talking about was that I didn't realize mancub wasn't here the other day.

Cassie 11:38
Yeah. So that was funny.

Josh 11:40
So I feel like we need to throw that back in. There isn't really like a natural way to transition into that now with the way it came the first time but it was pretty funny.

Cassie 11:48
So yeah, so the other day, my, my parents are here, so mancubs grandparents, and Josh is over here with me. And he's like, Oh, I see your parents here, are they here to pick up man cub? And I'm like, no, they're dropping him back off. He left yesterday like this time yesterday. He's been gone for more than 24 hours. And you're like, Oh, I didn't even realize he had been gone.

Josh 12:16
I thought he was playing League of Legends man. I thought he was playing League of Legends. And like I missed him on his kitchen runs that he gets for food and cheese sticks and...

Amanda 12:27
Apples. He kills us on Apples, man green apples. And now also red apples. He doesn't even like red apples. But when you're out of green apples will start eating my red apples. He'll go through an entire three pound bag of green apples if you let him in, like two days.

Josh 12:40
You know, I don't really know if that's something to complain about.

Amanda 12:43
Besause It's healthy?

Josh 12:45
I mean, it could be something else.

Amanda 12:47
I mean, I do want to complain about it when I just bought a bag of apples and it's gone in two days. Yes.

Cassie 12:55
I try not to complain too much about it. Because I'm like, it is apples right? Apples are healthy. And I guess the apple a day keeps the doctor away. This kid is never gonna ever be sick.

Amanda 13:05
But we're always gonna be sick because we don't get any of the apples. All the apples are gone before we can get one of them.

Josh 13:10
Cassie, is that why your immune system is what it is you're not getting enough apples? It's nothing to do with the thyroid stuff.

Amanda 13:15
We need to have a serious talk with the kid about his apple usage and how it's affecting everyone's health.

Cassie 13:21
He's literally killing his parents.

Josh 13:25
Wow.

Cassie 13:25
So yeah, but he's doing well. And it's see we started recording before we were talking about where he's at in life and things like that. And I'm like, we didn't talk about him now on the new recording.

Josh 13:38
Well, it's funny because like, you know, so Okay, so for those of you who have been listening to the show for a while you kind of got to see mancub grow up. I mean, he's been on this podcast before once when he was maybe

Cassie 13:53
Almost 13.

Josh 13:53
13 ish. Talking in a very chipmunk voice although he was not a chipmunk, but we changed his voice around let him answer some questions. So for those of you who just kind of have tuned in to the show on YouTube one thing to understand is that we have an entire like 120 episodes maybe that are not on YouTube that we did before we were on YouTube and you know you can go there's like a link I think, below the videos to like our show and stuff and you can go to our actual website and see the show pages but you know there's like 120 episodes. So those of you who have been following this have gotten to hear a lot about the kids and hear a lot about mancub as he's grown up and his his travails and adventures and all of those things, but man cub is is really more man than cub now. Which is funny cuz like it's crazy to me, but I know when I talk to friends, or we talk to fans or like people who haven't seen him in a while, like oh, How's he doing? How is like high school? And I'm like... high school? He's in college.

Amanda 15:04
And they're always like, whaaaat?

Josh 15:07
That's how I feel!

Cassie 15:08
All the time. Yeah, he is, um, he's almost six foot tall. And like, I think for a lot of people, especially folks who, and you're saying, people have gotten to hear about him grow up, is I think for a lot of folks who come in and are not necessarily listening to the podcast in order when we talk about him, and they've, like, hit the episode that he's on. He did a whole episode on like, my poly family. And you know, the numbers

Amanda 15:40
33.

Josh 15:40
People sent in questions for kids.

Amanda 15:42
Yeah, Episode 33.

Cassie 15:43
And we actually let people send in questions for him and everything. And so for those who aren't listening to the podcast in order or like, have come across it later. They're like, in shock when I'm like, yeah, he's in college. And they are like, oh, I was thinking he was like a middle schooler just starting high school. I'm like, no, he's he's in college now. And,

Amanda 16:06
And a giant.

Cassie 16:07
And a giant. He's bigger than everybody else in the house.

Amanda 16:09
Well when I first came in to your guys's lives, he was he was he was still in middle school. He was just starting middle school. And like, we went to like Florida. And we have pictures of like, our first escape room. And like, he was like, down here to me. And you look at the most recent escape room picture. And I'm five, two, and he's like six foot, like, I have gigantor next to me.

Josh 16:31
So I don't know if I've told you guys this. But when we're lifting weights, he'll take stuff and intentionally, like, put it out and be like, what's wrong, bro? I'm like, nope. I'm not humoring you.

Amanda 16:45
Do not engage.

Josh 16:46
I'm not engaging.

Cassie 16:48
So when he was younger he was, it took him a while to sprout up. And he was like, I'm gonna be super short, I think I'm gonna be super short. And I was like, I don't think so you're built more like the men in my family, the men of my family average between six foot and six three. So I was like, you're fine. And actually, most of the women, I'm short. I'm short for my father's side of the family. And I was like, You're not going to be short. You're built to be a taller person. Like, you can see your body type. You just haven't grown into it yet. And he was like, I want to be tall. I want to be tall. And now he's like, it's a curse. Every time you can't reach something, you call me and you ask me to get it. So I'm constantly I'm like, Hey, dude, can you get that thing for me out there? Can you reach that off that shelf?

Amanda 17:32
We say, hey, smalls, come here! Or, Arms, hey, arms come here.

Cassie 17:38
So yeah, he's he's, he's grown, mentally and physically over the years. And he's becoming a pretty awesome, awesome human. And he's had a really good relationship with his sister. They get along really well. And it's, I think, in some ways, it's awesome. How big of an age difference they are. Because it's not like, he's getting annoyed that she's playing with his toys, or those sorts of things. And he just gets to kind of enjoy this little person. And she's really, really into his snake right now. So.

Amanda 18:11
Also another cool thing, and we made a joke that he's like, training his replacement. So she has started helping with like putting dishes away. And she's got to listen to a certain song while she does it. It's the only way she can listen, or that she can put dishes away if she's listening to the song and she sits and she sings like the last word of the song. But like I told him, I was like, mancub, listen. I really appreciate you training your replacement since now you're going off to college.

Cassie 18:42
What is the song? It's the-

Josh 18:43
Kiss me through the phone.

Cassie 18:43
Yes. Kiss me through the phone!

Amanda 18:45
Yes. And she just says, Phone.

Josh 18:50
Well, it's funny because it's working both ways now, because she had me put that song on the other day. And I'm doing something I turn around and she's opening the dishwasher. I'm like, they're dirty. You don't get to put the dishes away just because the song is on. And she's like trying to pull stuff out, and I'm like nope! Close it up! Like, we're not. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. No, but yeah, no, it is it is really interesting. Because like you said, there is a really big I mean, there's what a 16 year age gap between the two of them.

Cassie 19:19
Basically, yeah.

Josh 19:20
And that's not something I've spent a lot of time around. But it really is cool. Because like you said, it really is. There's no rivalry. There's no, like he's a really good big brother. Like she really loves him. I'm not gonna say there's like moments and stuff where he gets frustrated. But overall.

Cassie 19:39
I think there's moments that everybody gets frustrated with a toddler. I think that's called being a human.

Josh 19:44
But he found, he does. He does really, really well with her. But yeah, the kiss me through the phone thing. Well, now he got her, I think I told you this. I was taking her on a walk yesterday. It was yesterday or the day before, I was taking her on a walk out in her little backpack Which she hasn't done in a while, so she was pretty happy about that, but speaking of not done in a while. She climbed herself in. Did you see that?

Amanda 20:06
No, wasn't out there. I heard everybody like, Oh my gosh.

Cassie 20:09
And like, was getting her arms in the latches, like she has gotten into it before, like, climbed into it not correctly, but she actually like got in and like situated herself. And was like putting her straps on, and was like closing it up and was like, Alright, I'm ready to go.

Amanda 20:23
I'm surprised. I'm not, but I am a little surprised that she's still fits in there. Um, okay. Have we adjusted that recently?

Josh 20:31
It's good up to like four years old.

Amanda 20:32
That's wild to me.

Josh 20:33
But she so she goes out, and anyway, so I get her and I'm taking her out. And I'm talking to her about the pond and I'm like, Look, there's ice. She goes, Ice Ice Baby. I said, what? Ice Ice Baby. I was like, she said that for the next 15 minutes.

Josh 20:57
I know that was mancub was that mancub?

Cassie 21:01
I don't know if that was man cub. I suspect that it was my parents.

Amanda 21:04
I think absolutely. That's definitely something they would get her into.

Josh 21:10
Ice Ice Baby!

Amanda 21:10
Just like Taytay. That was definitely, what is that song?

Cassie 21:13
It's Walk like an Egyptian.

Amanda 21:14
Walk like an egyptian. That's another song they got her into.

Cassie 21:17
So the little lion is developing a big vocabulary. She's talking in like sentences. She's putting things together. She's got like, it's really awesome to see where she's at right now at this stage in development, where she is like, Ice Ice Baby, you know, like, able to put that together, but also like concepts and things like that. And there was a point where she only had a couple of words. And it was really easy to know what she was asking for, or talking about. And she came back from visiting her grandparents. And she was going Tay, Tay Tay. And we're like, what does that mean? What is this tay you speak of?

Josh 21:43
For like three days?

Amanda 21:58
Yeah, it was a long time.

Cassie 21:59
And like, we could not figure out for the life of us what it was. And then I was watching her and she was going tay, tay. And I was like, and and I said something about walking like an Egyptian. And she was like, Yeah, yup, yup. That was it wasn't Yes, it was Yup! Yup! Yup! But I was like, okay, so we put the song on. And what Tay was is the sound of the tambourine. So she's going tay tay tay with the do do do of the tambourine from walk like an Egyptian. So, and she listened to that with my parents. So my parents like a lot of 80s music. And like early 90s stuff.

Cassie 22:41
And now our baby likes a lot of 80's music. Yeah, so.

Amanda 22:45
It is crazy when something happens for like, three days of her saying something and then finally, it clicks for us what it is, and then she's like, Finally guys, like she's getting annoyed with us. I've been saying this for days. But yeah, she's starting to get like concepts, which she just had one just the other day that just kind of like blew our minds it was Baby shark. Baby shark when she was like she actually realized Baby shark was a Baby shark. She didn't realize Baby shark was a baby.

Cassie 23:19
We got to watch it. I got to watch it like develop because Baby shark has just been baby sharks name. So she's been like Baby shark, Baby shark. So she picked up Baby shark the other day and she went Baby shark. Baby, Baby shark awwww, Baby shark and started like coddling it like a baby. And it was like, yes, that is a Baby shark. And you just see the like little like, light bulb.

Cassie 23:45
He's a baby!

Cassie 23:47
He a baby shark! And I was just like, yes. Like it finally took her that long to put together that Baby shark is a baby.

Amanda 23:55
That was amazing.

Josh 23:55
As opposed to the dragon in Game of Thrones.

Cassie 24:02
Flying shark!

Amanda 24:03
Flying Baby shark.

Josh 24:05
So, but yeah, well, and it was funny because, like, I don't know, she's she's learning so much too fast. Like it's really crazy. It's like every day, something new.

Cassie 24:15
And she's really she's got a really good disposition like 90% of the time. Last night, she had a rough time. So I'm about to do a tiny spoiler alert. Okay, if you haven't watched Game of Thrones skip, like 30 seconds ahead. So she had her Daenerys moment last night. So she's sitting there and you were out there with the milk and I couldn't help but think to myself like, oh, no, Danny. Because, she's got the milk. And she's flipping out because she's at a point where she doesn't want to drink out of bottles and she wants to you know, drink out of like regular cups and so you took the top off the bottle, and she was like really angry that we put the top back on and we went through this big whole thing and it's a big cup of milk and we finally were like, Okay, you can have it you can have the milk you got what you want after like this big tantrum about not wanting it in this cup not wanting a sippy cup not wanting in the bottle or you're finally like, Okay, since you said Please, please milk and you're trying to calm down. So she had been like, really, really upset throwing a tantrum. And then she was like, she, like, had herself together and you handed her the milk, and just like, put her finger in, and she was like [hyperventalating] - AHHHHH! And she dumped the milk.

Josh 25:31
And then you could see like, the shock over what she'd done hit her. She was like, more milk and we were like, it's all it's all gone. And she's like, AHH! But she had like, 30 seconds of silence, like staring at it.

Amanda 25:44
Like processing.

Cassie 25:50
But it was great, because at that moment where she was like, taking herr fingers that she was like [hyperventalating] and I can see she was like, am I gonna dump this because I'm pissed, or am I not? Am I gonna do it? I'm not. And I was like, That is the moment when the Daenerys is in the sky over over King's Landing. And is like,

Josh 26:06
The bells are ringing.

Cassie 26:07
The bells are ringing do I do I finally drink the milk? Or do I just burn it all down? That Moment. Okay, no more Game of Thrones.

Amanda 26:17
Okay.

Cassie 26:18
So, but most of the time, most of the time, she is a very well, like mannered, like got good dispositions. So, um, she does. And, you know, basically, there's like, two times that she's like, Cranky is when like, her belly is bothering her because she needs to poop. Or she hasn't slept, which I get that, like, those two things make me a cranky person too.

Amanda 26:40
Makes sense.

Cassie 26:40
Um, so yeah, she was. She was in both of those places last night. So she was like, in rage. But yeah, she's got a pretty good disposition for a toddler most of the time

Amanda 26:55
For being a toddler.

Cassie 26:56
For being a toddler.

Amanda 27:00
It's been a little bit rough the last week though, because we've been transitioning to like her going to sleep and like her own bed. Which It's only taken a week and like, she's kind of getting there. Like for the longest time, she was like, scared to get out of her own bed by herself. So now she's like, coming out and like walking into our room and saying, Mommy, mommy. So that's, that's going better than I had planned.

Cassie 27:29
Our daughter does have like an odd like, Britishy accent with certain words. And we don't know where that came from. It's just how she talks.

Amanda 27:37
Mummy.

Josh 27:41
I'm looking forward to getting warm again. So we can actually start like taking her out. Although she did, Amanda she did. So we took her clean when you were getting your tattoo, because that's the day that we normally go climbing. And she did actually do some climbing. Like a couple of times.

Amanda 28:00
I saw I saw a couple pictures. I saw a couple pictures and I saw that she was-

Josh 28:05
I climb pink! I was like, pink's pretty hard.

Amanda 28:09
Cassie sent me a video of her holding a rope saying I got Daddy. I got daddy. So I assume that you were up there and she was pretend belaying you

Josh 28:18
There was another time. So you know a lot of times we'll grab the end of the rope that the one person's belaying and help that way. But there was when when mancub was blaming you the one time she was on an entirely different rope like I helping Mommy! I helping mommy, I lowerin' mommy! Well and I you know, like I said though, it was just so interesting. She was going through this, this big significance phase there. So, you know when she say that she's like, looking at the other people like, hey, people I lower Mommy, I help mommy too. It's like, Okay,

Cassie 28:50
Mommy take, mommy take!

Josh 28:53
Mommy lowering! I help!

Cassie 28:54
I help. Mm hmm. And she was like saying it out to like other people at the climbing gym. So it was pretty cute. So yeah, she was actually really climbing. And she has figured out though she's she's kind of climbing enough that it's fun to come off the wall. That's really what's happening. So she's realized that if she climbs like three her body size, she has a bit of a like drop down which is lowering and she's enjoying the like falling out of the sky. So she's like, I lower I lower I was like, why don't you climb a little bit higher climb a little higher, you get to lower more and she's like lower more. I was like can't climb a little bit more. Lowering. Okay, so, but she's starting to climb, which is really cool. And also climb, not in the gym. She's like climbing on counters climbing on the side of the couch climbing all over the place in the house now, but I mean, we really can't criticize her. We've literally taught her to climb things.

Amanda 29:54
Every time she's climbing something now like she's been climbing on the bed and like Going flopping over on the bed. I mean, Cassie are always like, I mean, we kind of taught her how to do this. Like she's using this, She's using the skills that she's learned. But it can be terrifying.

Cassie 30:11
It can, but I've been starting to just use gym terminology, like climbing gym terminology with her. So like when she gets up on something, rather than being like, that's dangerous. Don't do that. I'm like, downclimb! Time to downclimb. Downclimb. Okay.

Amanda 30:26
Lowering.

Cassie 30:27
Lowering. So that's been working pretty well. So yeah. What else?

Josh 30:35
Were you? Were you working with us last time you were on the show?

Amanda 30:44
I don't know. I don't think I was.

Cassie 30:46
I don't think so.

Amanda 30:47
I don't think I was. I think that was a little bit before.

Josh 30:49
Well, you had been on fulltime since March?

Amanda 30:53
March. Yes. Yes.

Cassie 30:56
I think we brought up on the like the update from the Polycule which was like six months or so after the baby that you had been helping a little bit.

Amanda 31:06
I was like, part time. I was part time.

Cassie 31:08
Very part time.

Amanda 31:09
Very part time. So I, was I working with you? Technically. Yes. But it was like,

Josh 31:16
Technically. Yes. You were getting paid.

Amanda 31:18
Well, I'm saying it was not full time.

Josh 31:20
Yes, it was part time.

Amanda 31:22
It was sporadically.

Cassie 31:24
We were paying you more at that time to handle like some of the admin stuff with the facebook group. And some, like small odds and ends. But yeah, you've been working here at Touch of Flavor for what,

Josh 31:39
Full time for- Almost a year?

Amanda 31:41
Almost a year? Nine months?

Josh 31:42
Wow. Should we like throw a party or something? When she's been here a year?

Amanda 31:45
Oh my gosh, yes. Can we do a one year party? That sounds awesome.

Cassie 31:48
Can I make you like an employee of the year plaque and like,

Amanda 31:53
Yes.

Cassie 31:55
Okay. I won't even bark up that tree. Anyway. So

Amanda 32:00
Was that? Was that going in a direction that you thought the answer was going to change?

Cassie 32:07
No. No, but, um, yeah. So um, yeah, you've been you've been helping. Well you've been working here for over a year. And you get to help our clients because you're doing a lot of like community management and stuff like that with emails and reaching out to people on the Facebook group. And it's been really awesome.

Josh 32:32
So we all work from home now.

Cassie 32:34
Yes.

Josh 32:35
We're all here in this house all the time.

Amanda 32:37
Together.

Josh 32:38
With each other.

Amanda 32:39
With each other.

Josh 32:40
And the kids.

Cassie 32:41
And we've all survived.

Josh 32:42
I you know, I was gonna say I think like part of clearly the proof of our relationship effectiveness is just in the fact that we're all still alive.

Cassie 32:50
Yes. We've made it through COVID.

Amanda 32:52
Yep.

Cassie 32:53
With all of us working for the same business and with with a like young adult and a toddler. And yeah.

Amanda 33:05
And we're all intact.

Cassie 33:06
We're all here on the beach.

Amanda 33:09
On the beach!

Josh 33:10
Really! All of this is real, none of this is photoshopped. Everyone is here on the beach. So when you can't find me later just know I was clearly alive right now.

Cassie 33:19
Right now on the beach.

Amanda 33:20
On the beach.

Josh 33:21
Now I know the ulterior motive for this podcast. But no, how have you been liking working from home though?

Amanda 33:28
I'm loving it man. I- let me tell you what I do not miss. I do not miss driving 30 minutes to go into an office and then having to people all day and like having the right amount of coffee to be able to do that peopling because there was a balance because I could drink like one cup of coffee and like okay, I can people and then I drink two cup of coffee. It'd be like, I'm too I'm, I'm too caffeinated the people right now and I had to deal with that. So it's really nice that like, I don't base my peopling on caffeine levels anymore.

Josh 34:01
Which is funny because in some ways you do more peopling now. Because you are managing both communities, right? You're managing our free community. We're managing our members community and like a lot of the front facing stuff with the clients, making sure their scheduled, making sure thier taken care of, making sure their help requests are getting to the right people. So like your peopleing more,

Amanda 34:18
But it's completely different because I'm peopling in a way that I want to people. Like as opposed to going into an accounting office and doing accounting stuff all day. Like I'm actually like, helping people, and like not like calling people to tell them, Hey, where's your rent payment? Like? It's, it's much better. And it's kind of like peopling on my terms also. If that makes sense. Like I get to talk to like cool people instead of people don't really want to talk to.

Cassie 34:50
I think there's there's, you know, you're talking about peopling on your own terms because you're doing it at certain times and things like that, and you're getting to choose You talk to you like you get to talk to like, a bunch of awesome non monogamous people and help them in their relationships, you know, move them in that direction. And you don't have like just the random person that's like, disturbing you in the middle of filing.

Amanda 35:14
Disturb me at 8:05 in the morning when I just got there. And then like, I am not ready, like, I'm not ready to have conversations as soon as I wake up.

Josh 35:23
So we'll do like an impromptu. So like working from home aside, like, what is your favorite thing about what you're doing now?

Amanda 35:32
Okay, so working from home aside, I like that, well, it's kind of linked. It's kind of linked, it's a couple things. I like that I kind of, I don't want to say choose my own schedule. But I get to hang out with my kids, and also make a difference and not like choose between one or the other. So if that makes sense, because so many people, like even talking about office jobs, like, you go in and you do something that you're doing, just for a paycheck, instead of something that you enjoy. And you're not getting to see your kids all day. Like that's, that is not that is not the choice that I was trying to go for. So now I didn't.

Josh 36:21
You've been busy too.

Amanda 36:22
Yes.

Josh 36:23
I appreciate you.

Amanda 36:23
Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know, the other thing is like, so we take two days off in a row now, like we take what are the days - Friday and Saturday, whereas we used to take off one day, and then we'd have a couple days of work another day. So now it's like extra buildup of things from two days. So like our day back, or our Monday is like super duper, duper busy. Which I'm managing. I'm managing. It's fine.

Josh 36:55
I appreciate just having somebody to handle detail stuff because that is not my it's not my forte. It is not. I can be good at it when I need to be, but it is not where I enjoy focusing. I'd rather focus on the teaching and the coaching and the operating the bigger kind of like picture of operating and that kind of thing. So that's been, well, and it's just as we keep growing, and we keep helping more people and we keep interacting with more people, keep adding more clients, like it's too much. Like it's too much. I really like- our team's probably have to grow again at some point this year, just to make it all work.

Josh 37:41
But yeah, it's been cool having you home. You know, it's interesting, because it's been it's such a different place for me, right, like being home with a little lion like, you know, where as my last job, like, I wasn't home, like I missed a lot of mancub growing up because that job, like being home and being able to spend that time is awesome. And then just like all being working as a team is pretty awesome. Like, I can't complain too much, people we get to help are awesome. Our clients are awesome. They're doing awesome things. Like it's pretty cool. I can't complain. I'm very happy to be able to bring you on. That was a goal for I don't know, when did we decide that? It was a goal for a bit?

Amanda 38:24
I don't remember. I can't tell you that. I can't tell you that. I don't have my laptop in front of me. I can't go back and give you that information.

Cassie 38:32
I appreciate the detail.

Amanda 38:33
Yeah, but like you said, like, it's also like really cool. Like, working from home now. With, like, my poly family working with other non monogamous like, it's just if you really think about it, like, we're, yeah, that's just that's awesome. That's awesome.

Josh 38:55
So that's been great. That's been and you know, it has actually gone, I think because it's interesting because, you and I and we talk about it, some with you, but like years ago, it was like we had we had a lot of like, bumps trying to find out how to navigate that. And I don't know if it's because there's different interactions or if we learned our lesson or a combination of the both but I feel like bringing you on has actually gone fairly smoothly all things considered. Considering like navigating that, that space of like in a relationship, but also working together, but also like employee, and then there's also the fact that like, because you do admin, it isn't like you always have like a clear like line of command. So like sometimes might be me sometimes might be Cassie. Like I feel like we navigate that all pretty well, all things considered, too.

Cassie 39:45
Yeah, and I- to speak to like early on, first off when we first started working together doing business stuff together. You know, years ago. We were a lot younger, first of all, and I think that we have Developed being pretty good at finding the places where, like, this is my lane, this is your lane. While also, you know, finding the places where we overlap and jive, and where there can be like really good, shared, joyful, amazing experiences. And I think that let me tell you, working with your partners is not always easy. And I know like some folks are like, I could never do that. I think a big part of it is you have to; one have a good relationship to start, you cannot have a good working relationship if you don't have a good like romantic partnership, because those two things are going to show up in each other they are. And then figuring out, you know, I think the biggest lesson I could give somebody saying like, hey, I want to work with my partners or start a business is, like learn what duties are yours, and own those things, and what the other person is owning, like even if you think you could do something better or things like that, like recognizing that that's just not your spot. Like you would at another job. And I think that that's where a lot of times people clash is when you're partners, it's very easy to be tinkering what the other person's doing versus like at a job where it's like, this is - my manager does this. I do this. My coworker does that.

Josh 41:26
I think it's even more important though because I think when you're talking about doing it you're talking about like micromanaging or doing somebody else's job responsibilities at a place where you're you know, like a traditional business setting I think you're more talking about like inefficiency, right when you're doing it with somebody that you're in a relationship with people's feelings start getting hurt. So yeah, so that's been- but you know this has actually gone- because I did have a few concerns about how you're going to navigate all this like when we- I mean I knew we'd get through it right - but I wasn't sure what bumps we might hit and we've actually hit surprisingly few it's been very pleasant. Like on the - I mean obviously we've had life bumps, we've hit business bumps, we've had you know different bumps, but as far as working together, like bumps around working together that come from also being in a relationship and not just like typical like workplace like things you have to deal with right like it's actually gone... Cassie and I have talked on this. I don't know if we've if I brought it up to you, but yeah, it's gone surprisingly smoothly. It's been good. So what are people most excited about going into this upcoming year?

Cassie 42:40
I feel like you turned this into a job interview.

Josh 42:48
I don't think I can hire anybody. You're already both hired.

Cassie 42:51
I'm not hired.

Josh 42:52
Maybe it's a promotion, maybe?

Cassie 42:53
I'm a co owner. You can't hire me. You can't fire me, either.

Amanda 42:58
So I know. Okay. Are you asking me like business wise? Because I have a different answer.

Josh 43:06
Um, I was more talking life wise. Actually, yeah.

Amanda 43:08
Cool. I'm excited for little lion's first. Well, second birthday party.

Josh 43:13
Comin soon.

Amanda 43:13
That we're about to have. I said first, because it's the first birthday party we're gonna have like, not like completely like Zoom. Like, yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for that. And I think we're gonna do elephant themed again.

Cassie 43:27
I don't know.

Amanda 43:28
I don't know. She's still loves elephants.

Cassie 43:30
She does. She still loves love elephants. Um, but yeah, I I'm excited for that too, because it will be a nice step for her to have a birthday party. The last time it was just us and my parents, and everybody else was on Zoom. So.

Amanda 43:45
And this might be the last birthday party for a while that man cub will be at for her.

Cassie 43:51
Yeah.

Josh 43:53
Well. Yeah. I mean, it really depends. It depends on where we're living at the end of this year. I mean, I was gonna say nah, he can drive back even when he goes on campus. But that depends on if we're here. So that may not be the case. I mean, I know one thing we've all talked about is we're in a situation right now where we all work from home, where man cub is off to college. And a little lion is not in school yet. And this is probably the time we're going to try and figure out where we want to live because we live in Maryland and we love the people here. But I don't think any of us particularly like - it's more the weather, I think, than anything else here.

Amanda 44:29
Yeah.

Cassie 44:29
The weather is awful. I went outside and you might not be picking it up in the - in the thing - I went outside for like a 15 minute walk and my whole face is chapped. Like it's just awful. I wanna be able to go-

Amanda 44:41
It looks so much better now. By the way.

Cassie 44:43
Thank you. I feel I feel better than it did yesterday. But I want to be somewhere where we can go outside and it doesn't hurt me. Like be able to go out and like not be in pain. So yeah, we've talked a lot about moving to somewhere with a little bit more of a -

Amanda 44:59
Lika a beach? No?

Cassie 45:02
Maybe.

Josh 45:03
Maybe. I think a couple places we're looking at have a beach. Well, we're just like, like, like for us. I mean, I can speak specifically for myself, right. But like, being like, being able to get outdoors is like a big deal for like, just for life enjoyment. And like, for me for mental well being like it gets this time of year, it gets dark again, I can't spend a lot of time outside, I don't do great. And, and plus, like, that's where we do a lot of like our family activities. And just, you know, like here, like I said, you know, when it's nice, it's nice, but you know, you go like four months out of the year where it's just like being outside just sucks. And yeah, so this this actually with, I guess that's one thing I'm looking forward to is like with mancub going to going on campus. This is we'll probably be looking to spend by this time next year to be I don't know if we'll necessarily be moved, but at least be trying a couple places out. So I'm looking forward to that. What about you.

Cassie 46:02
Um, so I am I'm looking forward to that, I'm looking forward to- So it's kind of it's funny, because, you know, you asked like, business wise, life wise. And for me, it's like, all of those things all wrapped together in a lot of ways. But I am I'm looking forward to serving more clients, being able to help more people like that is a that's a big thing. And we're at a spot now, with our growth and with the with being able to have more people on board and where we're talking about, like, you know, we're probably going to bring someone else on, having the resources to be able to serve even more people is really exciting. And seeing the growth that we're able to do through things like this, like we've been able to now go to having video and being on YouTube and things like that, right. So that's really exciting. And it's exciting that we're in a place where we can test and see where we want to live. And I'm looking forward to we have a work trip that we're going to be doing and we're planning that as a work trip, but then like tagging a couple days on to do a family trip with everybody and I'm excited to be able to do a little like vacation with everybody like that.

Josh 47:25
Yeah, you kind of stole mine. So we've got a-

Cassie 47:28
Sorry. Well you should have went first!

Josh 47:30
We've got a training trip, like a coaching training trip in June, that Cassie and I have to go do anyways. And yeah, I think we're actually going to take our first like real family vacation, is that right? I mean, we've done some vacations, but the first real like traveling family vacation since before COVID. Assuming you know, and obviously it's up to how the world looks between now and then but we're in a spot where like, you know, we all have been sick recently. And so everybody including little lion's still has some kind of like residual immunity from that and we're going to be in a place where the spot we have to travel anyways is already somewhere we want to go and take the kids it is a short direct flight. Like so we're not like layovering in an airport and trying to drag that- so you know, it's it you know, we have to the world looks like being in a spot where yeah, like we're able to actually- well and the little lion hasn't really ever gotten to see anything because she's been a COVID baby in a pretty sheltered, bubbled, COVID baby at that. So you being in a spot where we're actually able to take her to see some things and have some experiences, and obviously all of us but,

Cassie 48:45
Yeah.

Amanda 48:45
But she's gonna lose it.

Josh 48:46
Yeah,

Amanda 48:47
We've been places she's gonna lose it.

Josh 48:49
I told Cassie one of my biggest hopes is that she is able to make the connection that she's actually getting on a plane because she loves planes so much.

Amanda 49:04
She does love planes!

Cassie 49:05
We live near an airport. So she sees the planes fly by and she has loved them since she was like only a couple months old and she noticed them in the sky. She's been like pointing at them and she knows what planes are. She thinks they're really neat. We've actually taken her over to the little like airport to see like some of the smaller planes come and land and stuff. So she's seen planes and everything. So yeah, hopefully hopefully she'll be able to put that together because I think it will just like blow her mind.

Josh 49:37
I just have this mental image of like "PLANE! PLANE!" Which she does normally, but I'm hoping she makes, like I said, I'm just hoping she can make that connection. And she might be able to because we will be at the airport, and she'll see other planes taking off.

Amanda 49:48
And we can, yeah, that and also we can talk to her and be like okay, here's a plane! Here we go.

Josh 49:54
Yup, We're Getting on it!

Amanda 49:55
I think she will I think she's at the point where she can.

Josh 49:57
I really hope so. Well and it's gonna be a few months before we do this anyways but -she will have a little more time for like growth and maturity.

Amanda 50:03
Well, and she loves the sounds of planes, even when she's inside now she hears a plane she says plane! So even like going there we can be like, Look, there's a plane Do you hear that plane? She's gonna love it.

Josh 50:13
I'm hoping she can put it together. It's going to be awesome either way, but I've definitely got like a mental image of here realizing it's a plane and losing her mind. So that'll be that'll be great.

Cassie 50:25
That'll be awesome. So yeah, those are, I feel like we have like a really awesome, amazing, like year planned ahead in life is, is where we're going with things for the kids and everything. And also, I'm also excited for man cub and seeing how he does on campus and with a little bit more independence and whatnot. So anything else you want to add? Or was that one of the big things? Or did you have any other things you wanted to add?

Josh 50:54
For exciting things about the year, it's pretty much been covered by everybody at this point. I just threw the plane bit in. So I think that's - I mean, what you said about, you know, continuing to grow, continue to serve more clients, like every time we get every time we get another win, we get another celebration, we get, you know, somebody else talking about, you know, the amazing relationship they had in 2021, even though they thought it was gonna be horrible. Like, or, you know, we see our clients who were like, in a really crappy place, like doing sweet things for each other and being in love and like, those things are amazing. So obviously looking forward to seeing more of those always that that feeds me.

Josh 51:36
But yeah, for us, it definitely being in a spot, of really actually like taking some family time to go somewhere, do something and have some experiences, like I said, It Isn't that we haven't had any, we haven't made any family time or even I guess vacations during COVID. But it's been like, you know, like, what can we do without traveling? What can we do? You know? So being in a spot, being able to give all of us and the kids like experience, you know, really cool experience is definitely, definitely exciting. And Mankiw will still be here that that point, before he goes off to- well, it'll be I mean, it'd be on summer break anyways, but it'll be before he goes off to campus. So that's great. Yeah, I think really, like those are the biggest things for me. And oh, and um, not spending another winter here. I am definitly looking forward to that.

Amanda 52:40
Yep.

Josh 52:41
I'm definitely looking forward to that.

Amanda 52:42
Be back on the beach.

Josh 52:43
Where- what's on the list right now? Of places we're checking out? Sarasota?

Amanda 52:47
Uh huh. I think we had a place in Texas we wanted to look at.

Josh 52:52
Austin?

Amanda 52:53
Austin.

Cassie 52:53
I think so.

Amanda 52:54
I think it was Austin.

Josh 52:55
Athens, Georgia,

Amanda 52:56
Athens, Georgia. There was a place in North Carolina, I think that was like on the lower tier of our list of "maybe"

Josh 53:03
it's so- it's, um, it's Asheville and Cassie and I were just talking about this the other day, you know, it's really okay. So Cassie and I during our date the other day, spent like five minutes googling the weather other places. And Asheville is really, apparently really awesome, but it's much longer than here, it was colder the other day. So maybe I don't know about Asheville. And the other place, man, I just don't know. Maybe California. It was funny, because we're talking to Cassie, we were having a discussion about like, you know, I don't know about California, like we have this, you know, we can do what we do from anywhere. Like, you know, we can help people from anywhere. Like, do we really want to go? California is super far away, obviously, like cost of living there is. And we're like, do we really? Like is that really a place we want to look? And then we checked into the weather of the last coaching conference that we went to there - what was it, Huntington Beach, and it was 65 degrees. Yeah, I was like and you know, it's 65 degrees in February and it's not gonna get any warmer than 80 degrees in the summer and I'm like, I don't know maybe. Maybe is there anywhere else we have on the list? I think those are the places.

Cassie 54:08
I think those are the top ones. Yeah, I want to move somewhere warm, like warmer and outdoorsy - like a place that we can do outdoor stuff like that's that's really important for like our bonding and stuff.

Amanda 54:10
I wish that we could find a place that was like Boulder Colorado. That was not Boulder Colorado weather wise. Because that was really awesome. We went there. It was so awesome. And we were like walking around they were having a tea festival. All three of us holding hands with man cub and everyone's like, hey, try our tea. Like it was just like, it was really it was really it was it was almost surreal.

Josh 54:50
I love Colorado but I think it's kind of like like Lake Tahoe, which I want, I want you two to see sometime, I went on a work trip years ago, but in that like it's a place I love to be doing During the summer, but like if the goal is to get away from the cold, like it look it meets the nature goals. It meets like- I'm talking about boaters specifically. But like it meets the nature goals. It's- the weather's beautiful during the summer, they actually have, when we taught out there, the community out there's pretty nice, which is also a nice bonus. But if you want to go somewhere where it's warmer, it's not Colorado during the winter.

Cassie 55:20
Yeah, folks keep trying to be like, well, it's dry snow. And I'm like, yeah, it's still frickin snow, like snow is frozen water, which means it has to be cold enough to have the frozen water, I want to be in a place where there isn't frozen water. That's where I want to be. Like, my, my ideal is to be in a spot where we come back to Maryland to see like our family in December, and I get to see snow around Christmas. And then that's it. That's the only time I see snow. If I never saw snow any other time but what I was visiting and if I happen to miss snow while visiting for Christmas time, I'm fine with that. Like, snow should be like this rare, magical thing that falls from the sky.

Amanda 56:11
Like in the movies.

Josh 56:12
Only on Christmas.

Amanda 56:13
Yes.

Cassie 56:15
Oh look it's snowing!

Amanda 56:17
Goodbye.

Cassie 56:18
Rather than this wet slushy cold stuff that just makes traffic awful and not want to go outside like, no,

Amanda 56:28
Didn't we also talk about a place in Arizona? Think we were talking about a place in Arizona for a little bit.

Cassie 56:33
We looked at like, some places like Nevada, and such.

Josh 56:38
There's places out there in the southwest. But it's it's super, like location specific. Because there's so much like differences in elevation and stuff. And the states are, are huge, like so it really depends on where you're at. Um, I've heard some good things about a couple places in Arizona, but it can also- I ideally, I know this is a difficult thing unless you're going to like the west coast. But ideally would like to find a place where it also isn't then on the other hand, so ridiculously hot in the summer, that now you don't want to be outside then.

Amanda 57:16
Okay, so here's this cool thing. We're on YouTube now. Right?

Josh 57:19
Yeah.

Amanda 57:19
Anybody watching this. Drop in the comments below, some places you can think of that are super nice. Weather wise,

Josh 57:30
Yeah, super nice. So has good nature, right? Um good, like outdoor weather all year round. Like kink poly communities is a plus. Definitely.

Cassie 57:43
Yeah, definitely, definitely a plus.

Josh 57:46
And the other thing that I'd say is a plus, well, let's stick with those. I mean, obviously, it's a plus, it's not a super expensive place to live. But I mean, I'm more interested right now just getting a list of places and figuring it out later.

Amanda 58:00
Of places to visit. We just need a list of places that we can just go and see how we feel about it. And feel like our list is kind of short right now.

Cassie 58:09
Yeah, I think the the big thing for me to like put like little star next to is it being nice weather and a place that you can go out and do things. We're far more like climbing outdoor hiking people than we are like, because I had someone send us a place that was like, I think it was like somewhere in Nevada. And it was basically like right there and like like near Las Vegas. And I was like so what you do is like a lot of like casinos and stuff. That's not really our thing. Like, we're more like cool things to do. Outside. Like, like ability to like climb and hike and stuff like that.

Josh 58:47
You know another place I've heard really good things about is Boise. But that's also a place I don't think is actually really warmer then here. In the winter. I hear the nature is gorgeous. The prroblem is there's a couple of places that meet the like nature gorgeous thing. And like I said, are super nice during the summer like Tahoe, like Colorado, like I think I think Boise maybe falls in that category. But where it's still, but you have arthritis, like you and I both have like old injuries that like we manage pretty well most of the time it in the winter flare up so it's not going outside. And then it's also like pain. So that's not great.

Amanda 59:19
And more pain if you go outside.

Cassie 59:21
Then it chaps my face and the cold just gets into your body. It's awful. I don't like cold.

Amanda 59:30
I'm done with it.

Cassie 59:32
Well, and it's such a weird phenomenon because like, we talk about this around this time of year and then come like April, May we're like oh, it's not that bad. And then through the summer it's like oh, you know it's not awful. And the fall comes and it's good and then all of a sudden like the end of November comes and I'm like why the hell am I still here? What was I thinking? So it's just like this weird like forgetting every year how much I really dislike winters in Maryland.

Josh 1:00:00
Well, Cass and I, yeah, we were talking about this because you know, we this is like I said, we spent part of our datenight doing this. But you know, we had this conversation last year. And we were in a spot this last year you were working, like you were working for Touch of Flavor. So you know, you didn't have a specific area you had to be. Mancub is in college, like he's remote right now. And then he's gonna be on campus. So we could have done it this last year.

Amanda 1:00:08
Yeah.

Josh 1:00:09
And we talked about it, talked about it, and we just didn't. And Cassie and I were saying like, it was like, we got to the this, you know, the spring, went through the spring, summer, fall. We were like, ah, you know, it's pretty good. Do another year. It's not that bad. And then it got to like, January, February. Oh, my God, why!!

Cassie 1:00:43
And it happens- it's been like,

Josh 1:00:45
Every year!!

Cassie 1:00:45
It's been like two years that this has happened where we said like, we have got to. We cannot spend another winter in Maryland. And then we've been like, oh, well, Maryland is not that bad.

Josh 1:00:56
But to be fair, this last year was- This one was the first time it was really an option because mancub was in high school and we weren't gonna relocate then.

Amanda 1:01:02
Yeah.

Josh 1:01:02
We talked about that.

Josh 1:01:04
Not in his last year of high school. That's-

Cassie 1:01:07
It makes no sense.

Josh 1:01:08
So so this this, I know, we've had this discussion for years.

Amanda 1:01:12
Like a lot.

Josh 1:01:13
But to be fair, this is the first year we were in a place where it was realistically an option. All the all the factors were in place. And we didn't. And I regret it when we went to Huntington Beach for that work trip. And it was warm here when we left. It was warm in Huntington Beach. And then we came back and we were just like, oh fuck this.

Josh 1:01:39
Great coaching training, great people, great weather. What are we doing back here? The weather here is awful.

Cassie 1:01:45
Well, it came -the weather came. Like when we left, like it was starting to cool down and such. But when we came back, it was also like, we came back and it was like-

Josh 1:01:57
A cold snap.

Cassie 1:01:57
It was really cold. It was it was like it rained for like three days when we got back to so it was like we came back. It's like rainy, it's cold.

Amanda 1:02:06
That was literally the world just telling you this, this is where you live. You justc ame back to this on purpose.

Josh 1:02:17
So folks listening to this, if you are watching this on YouTube, you can drop in the comments or if you're, you know, facebooking, drop it in the comments, or now if you're listening to the podcast, I guess. Like go to our website and

Amanda 1:02:31
Email us, I don't care.

Josh 1:02:32
Yeah, email us at help@atouchofflavor.com. On our website, click the Contact Form, and hey, just drop. If you know any places that meet those criteria, we are on the lookout, we're definitely definitely definitely- well and that's one of the cool things because like I said, Sarasota was on that list. And now we're having go to Sarasota for work. And that's so we're going to go there and see what we think about it. But I just don't know, I've heard good things about Sarasota but it's also Florida. And Florida. Florida in the summer, I think tends to fall into that too hot now to really go out and go hiking and go climbing and that kind of stuff category, but we'll check it out.

Cassie 1:03:10
For you. Not for me.

Josh 1:03:12
I think for most people.

Cassie 1:03:13
I thrive in -

Amanda 1:03:17
Sauna weather. Yeah.

Cassie 1:03:17
Yeah, I do. I can I can tolerate more heat.

Josh 1:03:24
But drop it -Yeah, drop it in the whatever, and we will-

Amanda 1:03:27
Drop it in the whatever applies to you.

Josh 1:03:29
And actually, this is perfect. Because you know, the people who are listening to this show. Right? You know, there's one of those factors that we can't ask most people about, which is, is there a decent community near there. Because like I said, that is a nice bonus, like if there's a decent community, it doesn't have to be right there. But like, within driving distance, yeah. You know, like an hour, two hours.

Amanda 1:03:48
I was gonna say you should probably say what driving distance means for you.

Josh 1:03:52
Like within a couple hours, if there's a nice community within a couple of hours. You know, like from where we're at now to DC from Baltimore, or from, you know, just like when we were out, like from Boulder to Denver, like, you know, like, that kind of stuff. But yeah, anything else anybody wants to throw in?

Cassie 1:04:09
No, I think we covered a lot.

Josh 1:04:10
We're just going to get off here and start pulling out a map and Googling more weather.

Cassie 1:04:15
No, I think I think we've went like almost an hour. And-

Josh 1:04:19
The second try.

Cassie 1:04:20
The second try.

Amanda 1:04:22
Due to that user error.

Josh 1:04:24
It's operator error.

Amanda 1:04:26
It's interchangeable. Thank you.

Cassie 1:04:28
It's kind of the same thing.

Amanda 1:04:29
It's the exact same thing.

Cassie 1:04:32
Tell me the difference between operator error and user error.

Josh 1:04:35
Well, the difference is that you're trying to-

Josh 1:04:41
Please.

Josh 1:04:42
You're trying to flip it around on me. I say operator error. That's why.

Cassie 1:04:48
So that's why it's important to say operator error is to flip around your own words.

Josh 1:04:52
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, that's clearly what you're trying to do. So if you're going to do it, at least do it right.

Cassie 1:05:00
Fair enough.

Josh 1:05:00
Let's do this more often than once a year.

Cassie 1:05:02
Yes.

Amanda 1:05:03
Yeah.

Cassie 1:05:03
We said that the last time.

Josh 1:05:04
And we can do shorter ones.

Amanda 1:05:05
Yeah.

Josh 1:05:06
Well, we did. But I think we're in a better place now with baby and knowing when we have childcare and that kind of stuff.

Amanda 1:05:18
I can't remember how difficult it was last time, but I'd imagine it was probably really difficult to get care for the baby.

Cassie 1:05:24
The last time we actually had the baby in the background. The baby was like,

Josh 1:05:30
Asleep.

Cassie 1:05:30
And only like this big. And we caught her cooing in the background at the very end.

Josh 1:05:35
Good luck doing that now.

Cassie 1:05:37
Oh, yeah.

Josh 1:05:38
Just hear her, Water tree, water plant. I type, I typin? I do. Can I hit the dance button?

Amanda 1:05:43
i comin' in there. That's the other thing she's been saying. I coming up there.

Amanda 1:05:58
I'm coming in there.

Josh 1:06:09
So, but yeah, anything else?

Cassie 1:06:15
No, um, I think I think we've covered a lot. And yeah, we should definitely have Amanda back on sooner. We've actually had a couple people ask us to do like a couple of topics with Amanda.

Josh 1:06:28
Oh, yeah?

Cassie 1:06:28
Yeah,

Josh 1:06:29
Well that would be cool because usually just get on here and... I know you're not like real big on doing the coaching side.

Amanda 1:06:34
I really enjoy the bullshitting thing that we do. I'll be honest, I'm not great with staying on topic. But, but you guys are really good at reeling people back in, so.

Josh 1:06:45
What kind of topics?

Cassie 1:06:46
Um, we had somebody who sent something, who's actually been like a fan for a long time. And they were like, it'd be really cool for you guys to do like a show on like, what your date nights are.

Josh 1:06:57
Hmm.

Cassie 1:06:58
Or, you know, date nights, or like how we've planned family trips and vacations, like, sort of like our polycule planning stuff, which I thought would be kind of a cool topic. We had somebody else who asked about, like, you know, some parenting stuff if we wanted to do you know, we have our kick ass Poly parenting episode, but just some general stuff that like we do with like, the little lion like talking about sort of like our own little like how each parent has like their own, like, different things that they do with the kids and how we work together.

Josh 1:07:32
That would be a really good one.

Amanda 1:07:33
That's cool. I like that.

Josh 1:07:34
Yeah, we can do that. Alright,

Cassie 1:07:36
More of like, less of like coaching and more from like a perspective of like, how we handle our polycule.

Josh 1:07:41
And what we can maybe start doing is like, so let me let me let me phone my admin here. So like, once every other month, we should start making one of these like a joint one. We can just do like 30 minutes. Could you? Thank you. All seriousness, can you put that in the schedule? We already have we already have a recurring-

Amanda 1:08:01
Listen, I'm at the beach right now. And I don't have a laptop in front of me.

Josh 1:08:04
We already have we already have the recurring recording time, just like change one of those once every other month.

Amanda 1:08:08
Yeah, let's do that.

Josh 1:08:10
Cool. And this is why we have an assistant because I've already forgotten that.

Amanda 1:08:15
All right. I'm going to listen to it later.

Josh 1:08:20
Cool. All right. Anything else? No, no, that's it, I think.

Cassie 1:08:23
Yup.

Josh 1:08:24
All right, everybody. Well it's good seeing you. We've had a great time here at the beach. I'm a little jealous of the actual beach right now.

Amanda 1:08:34
Please tell us all of these wonderful places that we asked for.

Josh 1:08:40
And yeah, we'll talk to y'all again here soon. Yeah.

Josh 1:08:52
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Cassie 1:08:58
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Josh 1:09:25
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Cassie 1:09:49
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Josh 1:09:57
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